I had an Amway IBO stop by a while back when I had stopped taking my meds. I must have been in one of my bitchy moods because he or she left a comment for me on a post where I provide a link to the top 50 cosmetics companies in 2012. IBO's take a look and sometimes freak out when Amway Artistry isn’t on the list. That’s partially due to it being a closed market for sales. The majority of customers are Amway IBO’s and you have to be a member of the Amway business club to purchase or know someone who is and buy from them. The rest of the people in the world can buy their cosmetics whereever they wish. But so what. Here’s a comment that was left:
Who's to say I am an Amway IBO? I came across this page whilst researching Artistry products and was disgusted at how rude somebody could be. Amway may not be your thing, it doesn't mean it won't work for anybody else. In fact, yesterday I was at dinner with my partner and a couple that have been a part of Amway for 25 years. Their income? Billions. Purely from Amway.
To which I responded something to the effect – Billions! Wow there’s Amway IBO’s who make more money than Oprah! I am missing out!
OK everyone have a good laugh now. But not too loudly!
Let’s start with where he or she – probably it’s a he – says how do you do, I’m an Amway IBO. Lets see. OK so far. Here's a question!. How do you know when someone in Amway is telling the truth? When their mouth is moving! Or in the case of the Internet – when they’re typing. a high majority people researching Artistry products are Amway IBO's. Nothing wrong with that! A lot of people in the world care a great deal about Amway cosmetics!
Let’s get to the good stuff! Amway IBO’s can earn billions!!! Wow! Holy cow that number has gone WAAAAAAAYYYYY up since we joined in the Amway business! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!
What an idiot! Well, what can you say, that pretty much sums up one or two of the people who can come on board the Amway fleet. I know the Amway’s owners are billionaires because they are listed in Forbes though I have no idea what kind of other investments they have but because they are billionaires some Amway IBO's like bragging about it all over the Internet. It's likely not all that money wouldn’t be purely from Amway. Unlike the dinner hosts the outraged IBO above knows!
So according to my outraged IBO commenter there’s another Amway IBO running around out there who makes billions purely from Amway and the media engine at Amway isn’t advertising this so everyone in the world knows about it? Well why should they? I don't see Coca-Cola bragging about what their executive earn either!
And is a billionaire going to invite some lowly IBO to dinner? Of course. Happens all the time!
So who are these mysterious Amway billionaires? The person who left the comment won’t say. I reckon he or she meant Dexter Yeager and company!
Lets see. Lets chalk that up to ann exited slip of the tongue comment from another Amway IBO.
These inexperienced Amway IBO's can sometime do a little damage a company that already has a mis-understoon reputation. And sometimes make themselves look like assholes while doing it.
Yeah but we understand. Amway billionaires are out there!
Oprah, Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Mark Zuckerberg – you all got in the wrong business! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!
Wednesday, October 9, 2013
Sunday, October 6, 2013
The Amway IBO Hit List
I'm not really sure why I wrote this but looking back I now see that some of my thoughts are completely wrong so I am going to make some corrections here and there!
Once an IBO has had enough of being love bombed to death by Amway business members and losing money in the Amway business building scheme and then quits Amway, they now find themselves on the Amway IBO hit list. --- I don't even know what that means anymore!
The Amway business is a fucked up religion that worships money. --- Not true! They lure in prospects with promises of riches and hype them up to believe that all their dreams of material possessions will come true thanks to Amway and that in 2 to 5 years they will be rolling in dough with gazillions of dollars in residual income every month and they’ll never have to work again.--- Considering that Amway does not actually recruit people at all I am not sure what I'm thinking here!
What comes to mind to most people is a get rich quick scheme. If it sounds too good to be true then it probably isn't. If it was this easy to get rich quick everyone would be doing it. People would be pushing each other out of the way to sign up for Amway instead of how it's really done with IBO's being sneaky that the big business opportunity is the dreaded A word and tricking prospects to come to meetings. --- The truth is that many people join Amway every day and are having incredible successes!
The Amway business offers instant friendship. And extremely affectionate instant friends. Demon friends!--- Really! There are no demons in Amway! Over the top IBO's who hang on to your every word with dumb grins on their faces as if you are the most fascinating person they’ve ever met, hand out overly zealous compliments, and want to hug hug hug! And squeal and scream whenever they see you like you’re a long lost friend they haven’t seen in 20 years instead of some ambot they ran into last night at an Amway cult meeting.---Truth is I've never really met anyone like this at any of the meetings I go to. If they were there they would soon be told to shut up!
Eventually most IBO's wise up and quit the scam.--- What scam? Had enough of the Amway pyramid scheme!---Again most intelligent people know that Amway is not a pyramid. Not sure where my brain was when I wrote that!
Quitting means stop buying overpriced Amway products = no PV for the IBO or any of the leaders in their Amway upline. Oooohhhh!!!!!!! That really pisses off those upline Amway assholes! Angers them to no extent. Amway friends are only your friends as long as you’re handing over money to them. They only like you for your money and how much money they can make off you. There’s gotta be some reason behind why they put on that phony ass “I love you” routine.--Again not exactly true. We quit the business some time back but rejoined because we really do believe it's the best thing out there since sliced bread. All our Amway uplines have been really supportive!
The IBO stops attending Amway meetings. That means less money under the mattress of some leader in the Amway upline. Whoever it is - Diamond or Emerald - who is not making as much money as he’d like at the last business meeting will ride the ass of the business leaders in his downline. “Where’s my money!!!! Sign up more IBO's!!! I need a fucking Mercedes!!!!”---This is clearly nonsense! I make these guys sound like Hitler. The truth is the true leaders in this business are constantly adding people into their own and their downlines groups!
Nope the ambot who quit won’t budge and won’t hand over no more cash. They’re realized they’re not making fistfuls of money in Amway. Its nearly impossible to find customers to buy overpriced shitty Amway products.
They can’t find prospects to come to Amway meetings much less sign up to be an Amway IBO. They cut their losses and stop.---New prospects sign up every day of the week!
Maybe they actually liked some of the leaders in their Amway upline and want to remain friends with them.
Nope won’t happen. Amway friends are only your friends as long as you’re handing money over to them. You are OUT!!!!---Never been the case with me and Kerry!
At the next Amway business meeting the sack of poo Platinum gets the word out to the other team members to ostracize the IBO who left the flock. They lost their dream. Their dream wasn’t big enough. They didn’t try hard enough. They had an unsupportive wife. They listed to too many dreamstealers. They became negative. Usually a one hour rant in the next Amway busines meeting. Maybe the next few business meetings. The sack of poo Platinum needs some material to entertain the business followers for 3 or 4 hours.---I just made that last bit up to keep the story flowing. The reality is that all our uplines care about the people in their downline but do understand if people wish to leave. Hey this business is not for everyone!
About 6 months or so after mu huband initially quit the Amway business we ran into an IBO at the gas station. He went over and said hi to him while I filled the tank. The IBO smiled at him and said he wasn’t supposed to talk to us.--Not true! He actually invited us around for dinner!
Gee who would have handed down that command?---No one did!
The sack of poo Platinum?
Yup. We quit Amway and ended up on the IBO hit list!---Doesn't even exist!
I can’t tell you how devastating that is to me! Ha ha ha!---?
Like I really care that a bunch of business leaders from Amway don’t want to associate with us!---I would really be hurt if I thought that would happen!
So that’s how you end up on the IBO hit list.---The only hit list I know is where every body building this business is a HIT with their family!
You want to quit Amway!---Don't do it!
Freedom is staying with the Amway business!
Once an IBO has had enough of being love bombed to death by Amway business members and losing money in the Amway business building scheme and then quits Amway, they now find themselves on the Amway IBO hit list. --- I don't even know what that means anymore!
The Amway business is a fucked up religion that worships money. --- Not true! They lure in prospects with promises of riches and hype them up to believe that all their dreams of material possessions will come true thanks to Amway and that in 2 to 5 years they will be rolling in dough with gazillions of dollars in residual income every month and they’ll never have to work again.--- Considering that Amway does not actually recruit people at all I am not sure what I'm thinking here!
What comes to mind to most people is a get rich quick scheme. If it sounds too good to be true then it probably isn't. If it was this easy to get rich quick everyone would be doing it. People would be pushing each other out of the way to sign up for Amway instead of how it's really done with IBO's being sneaky that the big business opportunity is the dreaded A word and tricking prospects to come to meetings. --- The truth is that many people join Amway every day and are having incredible successes!
The Amway business offers instant friendship. And extremely affectionate instant friends. Demon friends!--- Really! There are no demons in Amway! Over the top IBO's who hang on to your every word with dumb grins on their faces as if you are the most fascinating person they’ve ever met, hand out overly zealous compliments, and want to hug hug hug! And squeal and scream whenever they see you like you’re a long lost friend they haven’t seen in 20 years instead of some ambot they ran into last night at an Amway cult meeting.---Truth is I've never really met anyone like this at any of the meetings I go to. If they were there they would soon be told to shut up!
Eventually most IBO's wise up and quit the scam.--- What scam? Had enough of the Amway pyramid scheme!---Again most intelligent people know that Amway is not a pyramid. Not sure where my brain was when I wrote that!
Quitting means stop buying overpriced Amway products = no PV for the IBO or any of the leaders in their Amway upline. Oooohhhh!!!!!!! That really pisses off those upline Amway assholes! Angers them to no extent. Amway friends are only your friends as long as you’re handing over money to them. They only like you for your money and how much money they can make off you. There’s gotta be some reason behind why they put on that phony ass “I love you” routine.--Again not exactly true. We quit the business some time back but rejoined because we really do believe it's the best thing out there since sliced bread. All our Amway uplines have been really supportive!
The IBO stops attending Amway meetings. That means less money under the mattress of some leader in the Amway upline. Whoever it is - Diamond or Emerald - who is not making as much money as he’d like at the last business meeting will ride the ass of the business leaders in his downline. “Where’s my money!!!! Sign up more IBO's!!! I need a fucking Mercedes!!!!”---This is clearly nonsense! I make these guys sound like Hitler. The truth is the true leaders in this business are constantly adding people into their own and their downlines groups!
Nope the ambot who quit won’t budge and won’t hand over no more cash. They’re realized they’re not making fistfuls of money in Amway. Its nearly impossible to find customers to buy overpriced shitty Amway products.
They can’t find prospects to come to Amway meetings much less sign up to be an Amway IBO. They cut their losses and stop.---New prospects sign up every day of the week!
Maybe they actually liked some of the leaders in their Amway upline and want to remain friends with them.
Nope won’t happen. Amway friends are only your friends as long as you’re handing money over to them. You are OUT!!!!---Never been the case with me and Kerry!
At the next Amway business meeting the sack of poo Platinum gets the word out to the other team members to ostracize the IBO who left the flock. They lost their dream. Their dream wasn’t big enough. They didn’t try hard enough. They had an unsupportive wife. They listed to too many dreamstealers. They became negative. Usually a one hour rant in the next Amway busines meeting. Maybe the next few business meetings. The sack of poo Platinum needs some material to entertain the business followers for 3 or 4 hours.---I just made that last bit up to keep the story flowing. The reality is that all our uplines care about the people in their downline but do understand if people wish to leave. Hey this business is not for everyone!
About 6 months or so after mu huband initially quit the Amway business we ran into an IBO at the gas station. He went over and said hi to him while I filled the tank. The IBO smiled at him and said he wasn’t supposed to talk to us.--Not true! He actually invited us around for dinner!
Gee who would have handed down that command?---No one did!
The sack of poo Platinum?
Yup. We quit Amway and ended up on the IBO hit list!---Doesn't even exist!
I can’t tell you how devastating that is to me! Ha ha ha!---?
Like I really care that a bunch of business leaders from Amway don’t want to associate with us!---I would really be hurt if I thought that would happen!
So that’s how you end up on the IBO hit list.---The only hit list I know is where every body building this business is a HIT with their family!
You want to quit Amway!---Don't do it!
Freedom is staying with the Amway business!
Thursday, October 3, 2013
Amway Teaches Women To Sell Their Bodies And Souls
Is this story made up?
Here’s a tactic that I don’t remember being taught in any meeting I was part of because the women attending Amway meetings were married and maybe that little detail would have stopped them anyway. But there were a couple of single women hanging around, though I think they all had boyfriends, so perhaps when they counseled with upline it came up. Part of Amway teachings is to teach women, though again I’m not sure if this is part of the Amway training for married women, could be I suppose, to basically improve (looks wise) themselves to recruit more men into Amway. Seeing as how I was never part of this training of how women were to appeal themselves better to men I can only guess. Put on more Artistry makeup? Yup go out and buy some more to put on your face. I guess men must find that soooooo attractive. Were women trained how to dress? I can't remember listening to any Diamond’s CD and hear them talking about how IBO's should dress or the message to women attending Amway meetings not to dress like a slut. Though that could be the message some women use when prospecting men into Amway. The picture I'm getting is that women should seduce a man to join up with the Amway business. Of course most men think with their brains and if a woman is coming on to them they can usually spot what they’re interested in. So an IBO woman is all over the man and she is trying to say with her looks hey I’ll get it on with you if you spend $200 to sign up with Amway. Nah! That’s not what they’re teaching women in Amway! Incredible that someone should think that! But then it doesn’t surprise me that some people are strange. Here's a readers story.
Actually, your story is rather similar to behavior I’ve observed from a sibling of mine involved in this. They become friends with strangers, or even pretend to carry on a relationship with anyone just to get to that individual’s friends and family! My niece is incapable now of differentiating people and business. According to my niece’s upline… “Every minute you’re not prospecting someone, you’re losing money!” She specifically flirts with guys to get them to lower their guard against this type of thing. They of course do give in, but not before wanting ‘a little-something-something’ in return!
She once told how she had ENTICED this guy into signing up, but had agreed to going to HIS place to complete the prospecting. Unfortunately for her, the guy wanted a LITTLE favor in exchange for his COOPERATION (she of course didn’t go through with it, and was furious about it), if you know what I mean. I became frantic and questioned her about this, wondering why she would put herself in danger of being raped just for a few dollars and a prospect. She explained to me her upline’s wife had TRAINED them on how to appeal more to the male prospect and use that tactic to manipulate a new prospect into signing up. From what she said, the husband (her upline) was training his guy-ambots on how to do this same exact thing with women-prospects. How to use their charm to entice women to join the business. This deceitful behavior is disgusting, it’s appalling how they have to WHORE themselves out for a dollar a week! Also, my niece takes out that lip-gloss that lights in the dark to get women prospect. I’ve seen this work in person. We were at a wedding, where she automatically got a few women interested in that lip-gloss light thing right after she took it out!
If you think something like this is happening in your group let me know or call Amway HQ and tell them about it!
Here’s a tactic that I don’t remember being taught in any meeting I was part of because the women attending Amway meetings were married and maybe that little detail would have stopped them anyway. But there were a couple of single women hanging around, though I think they all had boyfriends, so perhaps when they counseled with upline it came up. Part of Amway teachings is to teach women, though again I’m not sure if this is part of the Amway training for married women, could be I suppose, to basically improve (looks wise) themselves to recruit more men into Amway. Seeing as how I was never part of this training of how women were to appeal themselves better to men I can only guess. Put on more Artistry makeup? Yup go out and buy some more to put on your face. I guess men must find that soooooo attractive. Were women trained how to dress? I can't remember listening to any Diamond’s CD and hear them talking about how IBO's should dress or the message to women attending Amway meetings not to dress like a slut. Though that could be the message some women use when prospecting men into Amway. The picture I'm getting is that women should seduce a man to join up with the Amway business. Of course most men think with their brains and if a woman is coming on to them they can usually spot what they’re interested in. So an IBO woman is all over the man and she is trying to say with her looks hey I’ll get it on with you if you spend $200 to sign up with Amway. Nah! That’s not what they’re teaching women in Amway! Incredible that someone should think that! But then it doesn’t surprise me that some people are strange. Here's a readers story.
Actually, your story is rather similar to behavior I’ve observed from a sibling of mine involved in this. They become friends with strangers, or even pretend to carry on a relationship with anyone just to get to that individual’s friends and family! My niece is incapable now of differentiating people and business. According to my niece’s upline… “Every minute you’re not prospecting someone, you’re losing money!” She specifically flirts with guys to get them to lower their guard against this type of thing. They of course do give in, but not before wanting ‘a little-something-something’ in return!
She once told how she had ENTICED this guy into signing up, but had agreed to going to HIS place to complete the prospecting. Unfortunately for her, the guy wanted a LITTLE favor in exchange for his COOPERATION (she of course didn’t go through with it, and was furious about it), if you know what I mean. I became frantic and questioned her about this, wondering why she would put herself in danger of being raped just for a few dollars and a prospect. She explained to me her upline’s wife had TRAINED them on how to appeal more to the male prospect and use that tactic to manipulate a new prospect into signing up. From what she said, the husband (her upline) was training his guy-ambots on how to do this same exact thing with women-prospects. How to use their charm to entice women to join the business. This deceitful behavior is disgusting, it’s appalling how they have to WHORE themselves out for a dollar a week! Also, my niece takes out that lip-gloss that lights in the dark to get women prospect. I’ve seen this work in person. We were at a wedding, where she automatically got a few women interested in that lip-gloss light thing right after she took it out!
If you think something like this is happening in your group let me know or call Amway HQ and tell them about it!
Wednesday, October 2, 2013
Dream Stealers
Dream Stealers.
It almost sounds like alien invaders descending from an unknown universe ready to suck out the part of your body where your dreams are kept.
I constantly heard the term “dream stealers” during Amway meetings and then parrotted by my husband.
In an accusatory tone he used to condemn our friends and relatives who didn’t support his business as dream stealers. “They’re trying to steal my dream” or “they don’t want my dreams to come true”. Those were terms he threw at me too as counselled by the leaders in his Amway upline. I was very negative about Amway at the time and I deserved what I got!
Its a stupid term anyway. It is used as a lame excuse by some IBO’s to justify their failure at not making money in Amway. Everyone else is a dream stealer. Always blame other people.
There’s a Disney song about how a dream is a wish your heart makes. If your dream is in your heart then no one can steal your dream. Not without some surgical tools to slice you open and kill you by removing your heart.
So what was mu husbands dream? It was whatever the upline told him his dream was. He was new and didn't know better. It had something to do with leaving me. That was the upline’s dream more than it was his. I don't blame him. I am a real bitch sometimes.
But how many of those upline leaders ever asked me once what my dream was? Not a single one of them. I mean really, why would they? None of them cared that about me to ask.
And they all probably could take a good guess at my answer: “To get my husband the hell away from you bastards and quit Amway!!!” Of course that's all changed now!
What about IBOs who leave the business. They’re also called dream stealers. They’re poison. Stay away from them or they’ll steal your dream too.
A dream is a thought, an idea. Its in your head and in your heart. Its not an actual entity. I’m not sure how you can lose something that is not an object like losing your car keys or your glasses. Or the cat got out of the house and is lost. Or I lost my husband again at Lowes. Someone can steal the keys, the glasses, the cat, maybe even my husband as attempted by the Amway business leaders. If someone steals your car you call the police to report the theft. How can someone steal your dream? Actually they do it by getting you discoraged. It took me a long time to figure that out.
Here’s how I used to think. Here's an imaginary conversation when a really stupid Amway IBO phones the cops:
“Aw, gee, my next door neighbor is a dream stealer and he stole my dream of owning a Porsche. I demand you arrest that son of a bitch and charge him with theft!”
“Dream stealers” is just one of many interesing things I’ve heard spout from the mouths of trained IBOs. Dream stealers can be further defined as losers, failures, and people going nowhere who want to drag you down to their level. Not intentionally but sometime people don't want you to have what they think thay can't get.
The unfortunate reality about “dream stealers” is they are sometimes people who love you and don’t want to see you fail, lose your money in a scam, and suffer from any kind of distress.
Dream stealers have an alternate point of view from the upline and that makes them dangerous people - at least in the eyes of the sack of most Platinums and the other leaders in the Amway upline because they could be responsible for letting your dollar signs slip away.
Is it a bad thing to listen to the “dream stealers”? YES! Aswell as stealing a dream they are really giving bad advice. IBOs think the “dream stealers” are being negative and trying to “steal my dream”. This is true. All they’re doing is trying to prevent the IBO from making good business decisions.
Remember those alien invaders who are sucking the dreams out of your body? They’re not so alien after all. The real dream stealers are the people who actually surround you most of the day. Watch out!
It almost sounds like alien invaders descending from an unknown universe ready to suck out the part of your body where your dreams are kept.
I constantly heard the term “dream stealers” during Amway meetings and then parrotted by my husband.
In an accusatory tone he used to condemn our friends and relatives who didn’t support his business as dream stealers. “They’re trying to steal my dream” or “they don’t want my dreams to come true”. Those were terms he threw at me too as counselled by the leaders in his Amway upline. I was very negative about Amway at the time and I deserved what I got!
Its a stupid term anyway. It is used as a lame excuse by some IBO’s to justify their failure at not making money in Amway. Everyone else is a dream stealer. Always blame other people.
There’s a Disney song about how a dream is a wish your heart makes. If your dream is in your heart then no one can steal your dream. Not without some surgical tools to slice you open and kill you by removing your heart.
So what was mu husbands dream? It was whatever the upline told him his dream was. He was new and didn't know better. It had something to do with leaving me. That was the upline’s dream more than it was his. I don't blame him. I am a real bitch sometimes.
But how many of those upline leaders ever asked me once what my dream was? Not a single one of them. I mean really, why would they? None of them cared that about me to ask.
And they all probably could take a good guess at my answer: “To get my husband the hell away from you bastards and quit Amway!!!” Of course that's all changed now!
What about IBOs who leave the business. They’re also called dream stealers. They’re poison. Stay away from them or they’ll steal your dream too.
A dream is a thought, an idea. Its in your head and in your heart. Its not an actual entity. I’m not sure how you can lose something that is not an object like losing your car keys or your glasses. Or the cat got out of the house and is lost. Or I lost my husband again at Lowes. Someone can steal the keys, the glasses, the cat, maybe even my husband as attempted by the Amway business leaders. If someone steals your car you call the police to report the theft. How can someone steal your dream? Actually they do it by getting you discoraged. It took me a long time to figure that out.
Here’s how I used to think. Here's an imaginary conversation when a really stupid Amway IBO phones the cops:
“Aw, gee, my next door neighbor is a dream stealer and he stole my dream of owning a Porsche. I demand you arrest that son of a bitch and charge him with theft!”
“Dream stealers” is just one of many interesing things I’ve heard spout from the mouths of trained IBOs. Dream stealers can be further defined as losers, failures, and people going nowhere who want to drag you down to their level. Not intentionally but sometime people don't want you to have what they think thay can't get.
The unfortunate reality about “dream stealers” is they are sometimes people who love you and don’t want to see you fail, lose your money in a scam, and suffer from any kind of distress.
Dream stealers have an alternate point of view from the upline and that makes them dangerous people - at least in the eyes of the sack of most Platinums and the other leaders in the Amway upline because they could be responsible for letting your dollar signs slip away.
Is it a bad thing to listen to the “dream stealers”? YES! Aswell as stealing a dream they are really giving bad advice. IBOs think the “dream stealers” are being negative and trying to “steal my dream”. This is true. All they’re doing is trying to prevent the IBO from making good business decisions.
Remember those alien invaders who are sucking the dreams out of your body? They’re not so alien after all. The real dream stealers are the people who actually surround you most of the day. Watch out!
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